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Can One Give Forgiveness For Murder

Over time I've heard many victim's families say they forgive the murderer for brutally killing their love ones. They often point to the bible believing that they are following scriptures and therefore having a forgiving heart to forgive the killer.

Such was the case in the brutal murder of 9 people praying at a prayer meeting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church on June 17th, 2015 at 8 PM in Charleston, South Carolina where a white surpremacist shot each victim multiple times. Soon after, family members of the victims made media statements that they've forgaved the killer that brutalized their love ones.

I often speak about the false church and how scriptures over centuries by members of the church are twisted and misused for the benefit of certain church people to maintain the status quo of followers that follow whatever pastors tell them without question. This is the norm for today's false churches.

I will attempt to unravel a few scriptures that are taking out of content just as many other scriptures are taking out of content and passed alone.

First, read these scriptures and see what you can get out of them. Below the last one I will give my understanding of them all.

Colossians 3:13

"Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye."  


"Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you."

Matthew 18:21-35

21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”

23“For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24“When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25“But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. 26“So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.’ 27“And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the debt. 28“But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ 29“So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you.’ 30“But he was unwilling and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. 31“So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. 32“Then summoning him, his lord said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33‘Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34“And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35“My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.

Romans 12:21

21 "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."


Notice that these scriptures are pertaining to those in the church. Not outside, though we carry it to those desiring to be like us, Not outside killers, molester, and so on. Colossians 3:13 make this point by expressing to us in the church by saying : "Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye."  

Even Matthew 18:21-35 is letting us know to treat others the way you want to be treaded. But notice in verse 34 that his lord, after forgiving the slave, "ONCE" again became angry and made the slave once again repay him all that he owed plus "PUNISHMENT," not murder him.Verse 35 say "My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart." NOTICE it said "his brother," not his killer and so on.

Also notice that compassion was given by the king to a slave he thought truly would give forgiveness to another because he was given it. The slave did not do this. He was pretending to be repentance in order to get over, like people of today, yet, continue his worldly ways afterwards. But he got caught, and you will get caught and be made to pay the price.

Also notice the king did not forgive him a second time because he now know his true heart. In this case the king was the church and the slave was the outsider. This is how outsiders act. Their deeds are great and deserve punishment.

However, in the church there are only problems and arguments of control of power, advancements, positions, personal inside problems as well as outside problems. These will occur but must not cause a division between brother and sister for long periods.

A solution is found as soon as possible and forgiveness is given and we all live happily after. Notice that Murder,molesting, raping and other hideous things are not suppose to be carried out by sisters and brothers.

So we come to the conclusion that forgiveness at the time it was written was more or less for those in religious gartering  and forming of the gospel. Also that forgiveness can be forgiven or taken away, as read by the king.

Now, as we have read, there is a different between Christian forgiveness versus the forgiveness of a murderer. That Christian disorder is amongst themselves and they remain Christians. However, letting situations go without forgiveness will lead to further sins because the person is unable and unwilling to see any faults of their own. This will lead to greater problem caused by them. They have lost sight of the word of God, thus unaware they are know longer God material.

Forgiving a murderer for slaughtering your love ones is impossible to say one can do without telling a lie. Sure it is easier to forgive my brother or sister because my brother or sister did not commit a heinous crime against me.

The church of today has placed false understanding in people's mind where they pretend like they are so Godly and they are following scripture until they have submitted themselves to centuries of lies. The false church is good at twisting and framing the scripture to make it sound and come out the way they tell it.

So, is it possible to forgive someone for murdering your love one? The answer is NO!  Why? Because of the verse below.

Hebrew 8:12. "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more."

The "NO MORE or FORGET IT" is the part we or they cannot contend with when it come to our love ones being murdered. We cannot forgive nor forget no matter who say we can or they can. One must be careful of telling lies.

First of all, for the families of the 9 murdered in Charleston to say they forgive and will forget the killer are not stating the truth. To forgive the killer is to say they are through with the matter. They cannot say they forgive the killer, yet, want him to stand trial for murdering their love ones.

they cannot say they forgive the killer and then say they wish he get what's coming to him. They cannot forgive the killer, yet can't wait for him to stand trial while they sit in court, watch and listen to detailed moments leading up to the killings and not be remembered of the horrific's acts. They cannot forget.

Nor can they have tears or sorrow any more. If this guy is given life in prison or death, they cannot cheer with joy or find satisfaction in the verdict nor wanting to be there during the execution or even wish death on him.

In other word, the matter as for as they see it should be dropped. Let the killer go. They may say they forgive him but they are not saying or telling the courts to free him because "vengeance is of the Lord."

No! When it comes to murder or horrific crimes to our families, some may pretend they can forgive and forget like God, but sin this great can only be forgiven and forgotten by God not us. No one can do it. Absolutely no one. To not remember what has happen or to wipe it from your mind is impossible.

It would be nice if this was possible, but we are so broken that we can hardly forgive and forget others for small things they do, not just to yourselves, but toward what others do toward others also. But as Christians, as few as they are, we can forgive and forget the small matters that take place between sisters and brothers of the gospel.

Lastly, Romans 12:21

21 "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

This again is pertaining to those of the gospel. It is used out in the world also, but in the world sometime evil must be overcome by good through wars and other means of protection to beat back evil. The Church as pertaining to Christians are made up mostly by Christians, or by so called Christians, being the United Stated, and representing good that must go to war with guns against evil terrorists and those that seek to harm us.

Christians should not be overcome by evil thoughts of hate and disrespect for a fellow Christians, but rather overcoming with love and live accordingly to the will of God. Any other actions other than love bring hell fire upon that person no matter how much they study, quote scriptures, take part in or what they look like. Now think about it!